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edited March 22 in Questions Posts: 84

I’ve been playing around with the physics in Codea, trying to see what the upper limits are.

I’m seeing that it looks like on A14 chip I can get around 500 boxes bouncing around and maintain 60 FPS granted there are no huge amount of collisions all at once, let’s say we spawn 100 boxes all in the same x,y position, these boxes will all collide and there is some massive churn for a few seconds as the collisions are resolved.

500 seems great for 60fps, but I’m greedy and bullish. Maybe we can get more?
Well when ever I try around 900 or more, the slow down is quite bad.

I wonder, what physics library is Codea using under the hood? Is it box2D, and is it the latest version? Just want to confirm if this is the best we can do from a software perspective.



  • dave1707dave1707 Mod
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    @skar According to the Codea Credits, it uses the box2D library. See

  • SimeonSimeon Admin Mod
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    @skar I think this will be possible with the new runtime @john is working on. That would allow compute shaders and physics to be evaluated on the GPU for orders of magnitude more objects

  • edited March 25 Posts: 84

    That’s awesome, hope Codea 4 is releasing soon.

    I’ve put some more play time into this and replaced the line drawing of physics boxes with a Mesh texture, performance is better, even at 900 there is still slow down but it’s not as bad as before and is primarily on the mass number of collisions situations.

    I’ve tried using physics.iterations() with many different values but they don’t really seem to have a framerate benefit.

    Next I’m going to try to see how well the mesh holds up with a 60fps changing image.

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    gotta get you guys onto the continuous delivery path :smile:

  • edited March 26 Posts: 84

    Here’s my latest test -

    600 bodies + 600 mesh textures (each mesh texture is a separate mesh to assume each unique mesh in a real game) animating at 60 FPS

    Personally this is really good results, it should mean that in a real game scenario, we could have tons of animating objects that respond to physics. Even more head room the less physics you have, I was able to get thousands of meshes animating and moving at 60fps, seems to drop to 30 around 6000.

    My next goal with this mini project is to make that time scale option work, going to try and see how I can add “slo-mode” and a “speed up”

  • edited April 1 Posts: 84

    I’ve been putting some more time into this project and have managed to get loading screens working using coroutines for Threads.

    I’ve also adjusted the mesh to fit the size of the physics boxes and added the boxes outlines again, which does impact performance a bit (as expected since it’s extra draw calls). I’m adding the project in its current state zipped here for anyone who wants to check it out (@UberGoober ;) )

    @Simeon hi Simeon, one thing about this project is that if you set physicsMultiplier to 7 to get 700 boxes and meshes, the performance has a drastic hit and then I will also get crashes of Codea. Is that expected because the demand is too intense? Or is there another problem?

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    Won’t run on my iPhone
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    @skar - asset image not included
  • edited April 1 Posts: 84

    Oh that’s a whoopsie... DemoSprite is meant to be a comparable renderer to DemoMesh. DemoSprite uses the 1-60 images each broken out into its own image, while DemoMesh uses a sprite sheet/atlas so it’s only 1 image. Here’s a working zip with all sprite images included but a hacky implementation using ‘assets.all’ (kinda unfortunate I cannot have sub folders in the project assets...@Simeon).

    this will allow the project to run, if you end up wanting to use the sprite rendering just make sure you comment out line 11 in DemoSprite, I forgot to after debugging

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    @skar this is some very interesting research you’re doing.

    I wonder if you’ve been following this thread:

    That simulation is really cool, but it slows down a ton when it gets around 600 objects—if the work you’re doing could help boost it into the thousands that might really be remarkable.
  • Posts: 84

    @Simeon hey Simeon, I noticed that the “” does not report “MOVING”( or “CHANGED”). Check out Physics Lab Example Test 4

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